re: The Faye Story IV
comment by heddy on 11/09/04 04:09:24 AM
As Allan said, you still have your thesis to do. Take heed and do your work instead.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by flyingroc on 11/09/04 09:31:40 AM
hehehe I couldn't resist!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by f on 11/09/04 10:19:00 AM
now the inquirer? they certainly beat this thing to death :)
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by gustav on 11/09/04 11:11:44 AM
keep up the good work by keeping us posted on the Faye story. The truth must come out.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Geri from MIT on 11/09/04 01:35:50 PM
I googled International Science Quiz Net and your website was the 1st in the search results.
Is that bizarre???
I wonder what's the motive behind the lying. I really think they just made it all up.
Or I'm that cynical.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by m on 11/09/04 06:42:00 PM
Geri, I don't think you're cynical. There are way too many inconsistencies and unverifiable details. On the other hand, the question regarding motive calls for a round of conspiracy theories! :)
What if ...
... the story is meant to divert people's attention from issues currently hounding the Philippines ... like the unpassed 2005 budget, higher cost of living.... conspirators: GMA et al
... the story is meant to divert attention from the investigation into Gen Garcia's accounts and the AFP in general.... conspirators: AFP et al
... the story is meant to divert attention from the mass migration of Filipino workers .... conspirators: employment agencies
... the story is meant for black propaganda against the Philippine government.... conspirators: too many possibilities! :)
... the story is meant to increase technology awareness among Pinoys, encouraging them to post comments on blogs and livejournals.... conspirators: ahem ahem, kailangan pa bang sabihin? :D
Sorry, Roy. Couldn't resist ... the Faye saga is really starting to become soap-operatic. My twisted mind just wants to take a break.
Great layout, btw!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by m on 11/09/04 07:44:20 PM
Ok, enough with all the hackneyed conspiracy theories I laid out earlier.
What if this is a plot for a grand reality show (TV/movie)? After all, there is now a big following among Filipinos (target audience). It has all the right elements for a plot: a central character (Faye), conflict (believers vs non-believers) and sensational claims, protracted story-telling (notice how details are dished off slowly), storyline (fight against all odds). You can supply the rest of the elements of a movie.
Bottomline, will you watch this movie no matter how things turn out? :)
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Uragon on 11/09/04 08:13:28 PM
..."She said her 100-page thesis, "The Effect of Ionized Radiation on the Philippine Fruit Fly," was inspired by her mother's masteral thesis in cytogenetics. Faye said she reviewed her mom's materials and simplified the thesis to her sixth grade level..."
That topic as a masteral thesis in cytogenetics? Aw come on! Not good enough. We very well know what ionizing radiation do to living things - disruption of meiosis resulting to sterility. If Faye's mother is reading this, can you please post from where and when did you get rour MSc and please also post the abstract of your thesis.
I don't think any self-respecting university would give a masteral thesis that is too simple. If I were in the panel during the defense, I would say to her, "We already know that! Give us something new!"
As I said before, this is just a simple exercise in elementary genetics. We even had "Effects of ionizing radiation on Zea mays (corn)" at UPLB during my 3rd year in college. If "The Effect of Ionized Radiation on the Philippine Fruit Fly" can be a masteral thesis, then everybody can have a masteral in cytogenetics - just submit a thesis entitled "The Effect of Ionized Radiation on the <any organism>," any organism may be pito-pito, makahiya, banana, mango, butterflies etc!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by gustav on 11/09/04 08:18:03 PM
The recent Inquirer article on retells the Faye saga with slightly different twists and turns from the original version, too numerous to enumerate.
With regard to Faye summarizing the mom's 100 page thesis to suit the comprehension of 6th graders, isn't this plagiarism, copying someone else's ideas? She didn't have anything original and new to offer, how come she gets full credit of the intellectual content?
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Uragon on 11/09/04 09:42:34 PM
I agree with gustav. even the mother may be guilty of plagiarism - copying other ideas.
Oh, I forgot to mention. A 100-page thesis on such topic? It can be discussed in 5 pages, 12-pt double spaced! I did this kind of work before, so I know how easy this work is. Not worth for a best thesis award. even in an agricultural country like the philippines!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Truth Seeker on 11/09/04 09:45:16 PM
If I may sum up the discussions....
Given: Faye won the International contest in Australia joined by 57 countries.
Problem: How to verify the given.
Solution: nothing yet, wait for Jessica Soho's follow-up report...
Am I correct? Until then let's wait further and stop bullshiting each other...
You Filipinos are fond of granstanding, really! Pasikatan ng English, techinal knowledge... Pataasan ng ihi, parang yung mga Fil-AMs sa USofA... WOW talaga! Please simplify your lives and stop being suckers of your own kind...
Really, Philippines needs purging, cleansing. This country needs to go back to the basics - needs to experience blood shedding once again!
Hanep, talaga...
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by TO TRUTH SUCKER on 11/09/04 10:40:02 PM
I view this as a highly intellectual discussion, thanks to uragon, gustav and others. If you don't like the flow of discussions here, then get out of this blog and resume reading your mills and boon stories.
re: Seeking Truth
comment by Gustav on 11/09/04 11:36:09 PM
There's truth to the saying that "the size of a man can be measured by the things that makes him angry".
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by TRUTH SEEKER on 11/09/04 11:50:31 PM
Yeah! That's the lame excuse for granstanding - "for the sake of intelectual discussion" just like "in aid of legislation". No wonder you sound like the horrorable senators and congressmen. You seem to dwell with small things not the great ones! You're thinking inward not outward for personal satisfaction and gratification.
One point, what is intellectual here when the sole purpose of this blog is to search for information, facts about the truthfullness of the Faye story? If you can not contribute something beneficial to this search then you know what to do...
If this is intellectual then why foul language is permitted? Why the GAGO, BOBO, etc..are allowed. Maybe you have a different meaning for this "intellectual discussion". Would you mind discussing it for my sake?
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by TO TRUTH SUCKER on 11/10/04 12:14:48 AM
Basta marami akong natututunan sa mga discussions. And true, what uragon said may shed some light on the veracity of the story, although he/she concentrated on the thesis topic because it is what he/she knows best.
Ikaw na lang pumili ng babasahin mo. Kasi ako, di ko na binabasa yung mga GAGO, BOBO, etc.
What's wrong in discussing technical issues? If they could be helpful, why not? Tsaka kung gustong magpataasan ng ihi, why use pseudonyms and not real names? Kasi ang alam ko sa mga nagpapataasan ng ihi, they do it for glory of recognition. In this blog, hindi naman.
OK ba truth sucker?
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Uragon on 11/10/04 12:22:33 AM
Sabi sakin ng mga colleagues ko dito, wag na akong makialam dyan. Kasi daw, science people don't have enough knowledge of social issues. Kaya dun na lang ako nag-concentrate sa alam ko. Pasensya na truth seeker, kung na-offend ka, or if you viewed my comments as "grandstanding." It was not intended to be as such.
Salamat kay Truth Sucker.
Have a nice day and Godbless!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by TRUTH SEEKER on 11/10/04 01:21:25 AM
Anu-ano mga natutunan mo sa discussions? Would you mind enumerating them here?
To Uragon: good for you to admit your weakness... reserve now your energy for your own sake.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by anon on 11/10/04 01:25:09 AM
you are the one that needs to be purged from the system TRUTH SUCKER, you are the trash of society. the country needs to be cleansed from the likes of you. why don't you sacrifice your blood so that we can go back to the stoneage.
if you want to a real intellectual discussion go somewhere else. this is a blog commentary for godsake.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by resty on 11/10/04 02:13:18 AM
Hi! The truth must indeed come out. It's beyond me why Inquirer picked it up in spite of everything.
http://restyo.blogspot.com
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Uragon on 11/10/04 02:42:11 AM
To Truth Seeker: I did not admit that I was grandstanding. I said that it was your interpretation that we are doing so. And I clarified that it was not our intention, or at least my intention.
Let's get back to faye. I will comment on the topic I'm comfortable with - Faye's thesis.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Alisto on 11/10/04 02:46:37 AM
READ TRUTH SUCKER'S COMMENTS:
Solution: nothing yet, wait for Jessica Soho's follow-up report...
Am I correct? Until then let's wait further and stop bullshiting each other...
You Filipinos are fond of granstanding, really! Pasikatan ng English, techinal knowledge... Pataasan ng ihi, parang yung mga Fil-AMs sa USofA... WOW talaga! Please simplify your lives and stop being suckers of your own kind...
And yet he is the one who is continuing to be a sucker and bulshitting others.
Somebody apologized and yet truth seeker was rude.
He posts like he is the owner of this blog!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Truth Seeker din on 11/10/04 02:53:53 AM
Sabi ni truth seeker: "Anu-ano mga natutunan mo sa discussions? Would you mind enumerating them here?"
Diyos ko po! Ang babaw!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Truth Sucker on 11/10/04 03:14:47 AM
"if you want to a real intellectual discussion go somewhere else. this is a blog commentary for godsake."
Oh, really? Did the blog administrator prohibit intellectual discussions here?
Tsaka di ikaw si anon. "anon" lang kasi yung default na name na nakalagay sa "name" at di mo pinalitan.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by TRUTH SEEKER on 11/10/04 04:40:33 AM
Babaw ba? Well, laliman natin! Can you outline all the learnings you gain from the discussions? Please include examples. Okay na ba yun?
You know what, you are now breaking and shaking with fury in your eyes, and you can't seem to understand why...break muna for a bottle of ice cold beer...mawawala din yan!
Uragon is soft now, what happened to the red in your eyes? That's good for you. You can now contribute properly with that cool attitude!
Alisto is so alisto...How'd I wish I am the owner of this blog! Thanks for reminding me that.
There you go, intellectual discussion is prohibited in this blog so off I go!
CONCLUSION:
FAYE's story is yet to be verified....Soon the truth will come out in the open and it will set us all free!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by ANONg paki mo on 11/10/04 05:18:46 AM
feeling smartass to a!
truth sucker your too smart for us.so just shut up. matalino ka na e.you dont need to read anymore. your smarter than us na.
what do you care if the story is true. just wait for your fat ass jessica soho report that will set you free and shut the F*ck up.
"Babaw ba? Well, laliman natin! Can you outline all the learnings you gain from the discussions? Please include examples. Okay na ba yun? "
your complicating our live shut the F*ck up. i thought wou want to simplify things.
CONCLUSIOM:
SHUT THE F*CK UP!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by anonG PAKI MO on 11/10/04 05:22:57 AM
*CONCLSION
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by flyingroc on 11/10/04 07:09:44 AM
People, be nice.
Oh and if anyone sees Jessica Soho reports tonight, why not tell us about it?
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by gustav on 11/10/04 09:41:13 AM
I don't know about you guys but this Faye story bothers me. A hoax that supposedly came from a religious organization and picked up by the media who in turn chastised the soul of the entire nation must be a concern to every Filipino. The email on Misplaced Priorities had reached the 4 corners of the globe glorifying God! Does the bible say that you have to fabricate lies to sensitize people to God's teachings? Can you just stand there and say nothing?
The reason why we are still here is because the whole Faye episode is still unproven to be true. Yes, despite the audacity of Faye San Juan and her mother to face TV camera the nation still begs for an explanation and the reason is the pieces of the puzzle is grossly incomplete. We are trying to analyze what has been published so far and giving our views to counter the lame evidences offered and yes, I can't deny that I'm here because I am venting my ire towards this shameful and despicable stupidity and hypocrisy of the perpetrators of this hoax.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by noid on 11/10/04 10:24:39 AM
Hi guys,
Am watching Jessica Soho right now, but there was no mention of the Faye story in the opening segment...Anyway, opened my daily digest from the plaridel yahoogroup and found out that Patricia's uncle, Boo Chanco, another Phil. Star columnist, has asked his niece to dig deeper into the story. I'm pasting the full thread here.
:) Dino
http://www.WriteLit.com
Where writers and readers meet
Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:41:16 -0800
From: "Boo Chanco" <bchanco@bayantel.com.ph>
Subject: Re: FW: Is Faye's story true, or just a fairy tale?
ka pete -- despite the second article written by my niece, which i posted
here on your request, i feel something is not quite right... things don't
add up in that story about faye. i have asked her to investigate more and
not depend on what the mother and child said. it would be nice to be shown
plane tickets, a trophy or a souvenir photo in australia. none of those were
shown to her. i find that strange in this publicity crazy town where photo
releases of the smallest events are published.
will let you know what happens.
boo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Lacaba" <kapete@ispbonanza.com.ph>
To: <plaridel_papers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [plaridel] FW: Is Faye's story true, or just a fairy tale?
>
> Boo:
>
> Favor lang. For the benefit of Plaridel Papers who don't get the
> Philippine Star, or who have difficulty accessing the Philstar
> Website (and among the Websites of Philippine newspapers, it's the
> most difficult to access), could you ask for a text copy of
> Patricia's column for tomorrow, and post it here? Thanks.
>
> Pete
>
>
> >i talked to patricia last night. she said she will write about her
interview
> >with faye in her column at philstar tomorrow. i didn't know about the
points
> >of differences raised here. maybe someone just took the liberty of
editing
> >her original column. i know patricia is responsible enough to check her
> >facts and she has no interest to serve specially in politics as some
people
> >are now trying to say. she is just one idealistic kid who happens to be
> >talented as well. in any case, whoever re-titled her column to focus on
> >misplaced priorities has a point too. ate glo has this penchant of
receiving
> >showbiz celebrities in the palace and jasmine trias is just one of them.
but
> >this faye who is, i understand, just 12 or 13 years old excels in science
> >and math, isn't as exciting a photo op subject. actually, neither is
> >patricia, from the point of view of the palace. she has not been received
by
> >ate glo either and we all know how she defeated 59 other contestants from
> >the english speaking world including those from england and the united
> >states. prince philip will end up receiving her first in the formal
awarding
> >this month in london. oh well... misplaced priorities naman talaga.
> >
> >boo chanco
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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re: The Faye Story IV
comment by noid on 11/10/04 10:33:30 AM
Hi guys,
Am watching Jessica Soho right now, but there was no mention of the Faye story in the opening segment...Anyway, opened my daily digest from the plaridel yahoogroup and found out that Patricia's uncle, Boo Chanco, another Phil. Star columnist, has asked his niece to dig deeper into the story. I'm pasting the full thread here.
:) Dino
http://www.WriteLit.com
Where writers and readers meet
Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:41:16 -0800
From: "Boo Chanco" <bchanco@bayantel.com.ph>
Subject: Re: FW: Is Faye's story true, or just a fairy tale?
ka pete -- despite the second article written by my niece, which i posted
here on your request, i feel something is not quite right... things don't
add up in that story about faye. i have asked her to investigate more and
not depend on what the mother and child said. it would be nice to be shown
plane tickets, a trophy or a souvenir photo in australia. none of those were
shown to her. i find that strange in this publicity crazy town where photo
releases of the smallest events are published.
will let you know what happens.
boo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Lacaba" <kapete@ispbonanza.com.ph>
To: <plaridel_papers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [plaridel] FW: Is Faye's story true, or just a fairy tale?
>
> Boo:
>
> Favor lang. For the benefit of Plaridel Papers who don't get the
> Philippine Star, or who have difficulty accessing the Philstar
> Website (and among the Websites of Philippine newspapers, it's the
> most difficult to access), could you ask for a text copy of
> Patricia's column for tomorrow, and post it here? Thanks.
>
> Pete
>
>
> >i talked to patricia last night. she said she will write about her
interview
> >with faye in her column at philstar tomorrow. i didn't know about the
points
> >of differences raised here. maybe someone just took the liberty of
editing
> >her original column. i know patricia is responsible enough to check her
> >facts and she has no interest to serve specially in politics as some
people
> >are now trying to say. she is just one idealistic kid who happens to be
> >talented as well. in any case, whoever re-titled her column to focus on
> >misplaced priorities has a point too. ate glo has this penchant of
receiving
> >showbiz celebrities in the palace and jasmine trias is just one of them.
but
> >this faye who is, i understand, just 12 or 13 years old excels in science
> >and math, isn't as exciting a photo op subject. actually, neither is
> >patricia, from the point of view of the palace. she has not been received
by
> >ate glo either and we all know how she defeated 59 other contestants from
> >the english speaking world including those from england and the united
> >states. prince philip will end up receiving her first in the formal
awarding
> >this month in london. oh well... misplaced priorities naman talaga.
> >
> >boo chanco
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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>
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re: The Faye Story IV
comment by gustav on 11/10/04 01:11:52 PM
What has Jasmine Trias done that is undeserving of Gloria M's audience? For God's sake Jasmine Trias' talent and accomplishment is phenomenal, no comparison to talents of our teenie bopper/ wannabee singer/actors in the Phil entertainment business today. What is wrong with Gloria paying tribute to her success ? Why beat up on Jasmine when nobody even knew Faye, no one can confirm if the damn contest ever took place and look, even her mother for some reason chose to conceal her identity? What are we trying to say here?
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by heddy on 11/10/04 04:46:47 PM
Hold your tongue and your anger anong paki mo. There are minors coming to this site.
I did not get to watch TV last night. Like most of the people, I will wait for a more convincing report.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by TO TRUTH SEEKER on 11/10/04 07:04:59 PM
Wow, tol, ang babaw mo nga.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by TO TRUTH SEEKER on 11/10/04 07:05:10 PM
Wow, tol, ang babaw mo nga.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Dr. Perez on 11/10/04 08:47:58 PM
Why don't we respect each other's perspective?
There are many parallel and yet complementary ways of exporing this story.
Some people would look into whether there are records of Faye and her mother in Immigration.
Some would view the politics and social factors involved.
Some would try to verify the "science in the story.
I am supporting Uragon, because he (or she) was commenting on his area of expertise. I understand that by proving that the thesis can never qualify as a winner, then the whole story might have been a hoax. Uragon does not need to discuss at length that the whole story is a hoax because of the limited facts that we all get from such stories. What he did was to analyze A PART OF THE STORY. Piece by piece. He did his part on the scientific thesis, now let's see if other would also do the same on the other facets of the story.
Truth seeker does not understand the meaning of a healthy argument. He does not respect the perspective of others. I do not think that Uragon was grandstanding. Why do others always say that someone is grandstanding if he shares technical/scientific knowledge? Maybe, one of truth seeker's frustrations is science.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Kathy on 11/10/04 08:49:54 PM
Ay OO! Kilala ko po yan si Truth Seeker! Laging lowest yan sa science classes namin nung high school.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Uragon on 11/10/04 10:02:37 PM
Truth Seeker posted:"Uragon is soft now, what happened to the red in your eyes? That's good for you. You can now contribute properly with that cool attitude!"
I don't know what he's talking about. Maybe that's what pleases him. Ego-tripping. Relishing in the glory that he has beaten another. What a mistake. It's you who was defeated. I bet your foot is in your mouth while typing your comments.
I am firm in my stand that by trying to deduce the thesis part of the story, I may contribute to the discussion of this issue. Never mind that others call it intellectual discussion.
I stand by what I said that the "Effect of Ionizing Radiation on the Philippine Fruit Fly" can never hope to be a best thesis in Physics, as claimed.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Kathy on 11/10/04 10:41:18 PM
Let's ignore truth seeker, truth sucker and anong paki mo. They don't deserve to be in this blog, much less our attention.
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by anona on 11/11/04 01:25:21 AM
sarap magbasa!!! comment lang kayo please.. para ma-entertain ako :D
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by kathy on 11/11/04 01:38:28 AM
check http://stmedia.blogspot.com
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by shrink on 11/11/04 01:46:31 AM
Is Faye and her mother another case of paranoid schizophrenia?
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by shrink on 11/11/04 01:46:59 AM
Is Faye and her mother another case of paranoid schizophrenia?
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by anon on 11/11/04 02:29:37 AM
E, wala namang laman yung http://stmedia.blogspot.com
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Pyramid on 11/11/04 02:30:33 AM
Woohooo! Nakakatuwa dito! Lalo na si truth seeker! Ang bobo kasi!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by HANOBAYAN! on 11/11/04 03:07:50 AM
Haller! Truth seeker! Hano daw! Pag di mo maintindihan ang sinasabi nina Uragon, wag ka na magcomment. You pretend na alam mo yung topic at nag-summarize ka pa! Duh!
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by Atty.Dino on 11/11/04 04:42:04 AM
The following statements made by flyingroc (the owner of this blog) are the basic purpose of these discussion:
"So what to make of this story? As far as I know this is a story from a paid advertisement. As such it is not subject to the journalistic scrutiny (such as it is) given to news articles. Nobody seems to have posted anything on the Web about the competition she entered in Australia, except for one columnist at the Star. Which is weird, since there purportedly were 57 countries represented in that competition. "
"Without more evidence, I don't think we can be certain about the thruthfulness of this story, but right now I'm considering this story just that: a story. If you have more info about this story, please comment, or send me email. I'd be very interested. "
So we need to gather more evidence to prove that this story is true (or not true). My readings on the discussions lead me to the conclusion that Jessica Soho will provide a followup story which never came. Then came Boo Chanco who asked her niece Patricia to dig deeper into the story. There's no date mentioned when to have the findings. Sorry for us folks, but let's wait further if you need to have a closure of this case, and peace of mind. From what I've read, whatta discussion you have here!
In the meantime, in line with Truth Seeker's comment to contribute properly, I have this piece on this issue. This involves a 13-year old girl with talent, young Patricia Evangelista, and Bread of Life Ministries.
Faye is too young to be "prosecuted" by us adults (hope we are all adults here), whether she is telling the truth or not. I fervently hope that she is telling the truth to her God's people. So my position is to spare her from all accusations any which way this issue turns out. She needs to be "protected".
For young Patricia, she must do her homework fast. Somebody must help this young woman do this - I hope I can be of assistance. She must prove beyond reasonable doubt that the story she quoted in her column is true. Other volunteers in helping her? Otherwise, "nakuryente" is the term for this young lady's offense. A case which can be resolved by an anti-kuryente" in her column. Let's help her survive this "storm". Sometimes a person needs to have the lowest score in science before he can become a genius.
For Bread of Life Ministries, this is a case of enlightenment to the harsh realities of the outside world, i.e. the Mob Rule. It's The Boy Who Cried Wolf reincarnated. "Kuryente" once again is the case because it is a person, not the whole congregation, did the write-up of the paid ad. That person, maybe, is regarded as the point man as far as publication of documents are concerned thus the leaders concurred at once. Surely, it is a given unversal SOP that before any document is published, esp of this proportion which the Malacanang occupant is depicted unfavorably, facts must be secured. My one piece for this church is for them to assemble a damage-control team, ASAP, and control the virus which is slowly tearing it apart.
Motion to adjourn this proceedings.
So there, I've not mentioned Faye's mother here because I expect somebody to concoc something for her. Any taker?
One last thing, is this blog meant to hit and run? Why the pseudonym? To conceal your true identity? Is it necessary to write things that the majority don't understand?
re: The Faye Story IV
comment by to Atty Dino on 11/11/04 07:19:47 AM
flyingroc doesn't conceal his identity. Just click on the about link at the very top of this page. In fact, his picture is at the right side of this page too.
This is a blog and I think he simply expressed his skepticism on the story because of the seemingly bad investigative journalism in the Philippines. Until now, even the Inquirer nor the Phil Star nor Jessica Soho didn't nail down the story in their first try. People can also express their own piece of opinion or information in this blog.
The people here are scrutinizing the details of the story from whatever the mother and child told the journalists who retold the story in newspapers. I don't see anything wrong about that. We all want to know the truth.
As for Faye: from her churchmates' testimony, she in fact told them the same story in church -- hence she's in fact responsible for all of this.
If the story is true, the only thing that we can conclude is that these competitions Faye supposedly joined are NOT as good as the Bread of Lie Ministries projects it. It could be a VERY private competition that even the science schools like masay, pisay, etc. never knew. Whoever the members of the board of judges that evaluated the thesis of Faye about flies (based on her mother's own thesis) and judged it as the best in Physics are simply incompetent (where's the physics in that thesis?). I'm even inclined to think that the mother actually rewrote the thesis (but it could be that Faye is really as smart as she was projected in media). But as gustav and Uragon already pointed out -- this could also be a case of plagiarism.
Now if the story is not true, it is serious matter. Is this a mother and child tandem to fool a church? If the competition in Indonesia that Faye supposed joined is also not true then this "competition" in Australia is the second time they are doing this. Remember that Faye supposedly joined the First Metrobank MTAP-DEPED Math Challenge in 2001 as grade 2 student. However, the website of metrobank for the 2001 competition doesn't show any category for grade 2. The results are simply for grade 5 and 6. Therefore, if the story is not true, it should be stopped immediately!
This is not a courtroom and I object to the motion to adjourn -- it is simply inappropriate. You go and create your own blog if you want.
btw, the name 'Atty Dino' is also a pseudoname -- at least flyingroc shares his identity with us. And oh yes, I am also concealing my identity -- well, I think you get the point.
kudos to flyingroc!
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comment by joeY on 11/11/04 08:34:05 AM
how did the faye story surface anyway? how did the people know about it?was it the bread of life who told the media about it?
nagiging comedy na tong discussion na to ah! haha,lots of control freaks on the loose, atty.dino,TRUTH SEEKER.
look what you started flyingroc!
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comment by gustav on 11/11/04 11:39:20 AM
Protect Faye? She's only 11 or 13? If it is proven that she lied, what discipline might be befitting for this girl? She can only go scot free if there is sufficient evidence that she was coerced by her mother to lie in front of the nation to achieve their goal which up to this point in time no one really knows. I hope their goal was not to glorify God because if it is they certainly deserve God's wrath. The Bread of Life is very much into this as well. Being a Christian organization it is their duty to clear their name once and for all investigate how their name got into the imbroglio. If someone from within the organization used their name without proper authorization it must be rectified immediately. What's holding them up? I'm wondering.
Bottom line this appears to be a collusion of a group of people and frankly as incensed as I am for this embarassment to the nation and I'm sure I an not the only one who shares this beef, I am not sure what punishment this people would get under the Phil law. A slap in the wrist maybe.
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comment by You've Been Had on 11/11/04 02:35:12 PM
That's it.
You've all been had.
You are doing what the story wanted you to do.
Which by posting this im also guilty of. so im ending it now.
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comment by gustav on 11/11/04 03:43:19 PM
Not quite. A criminal conviction might not be forthcoming but if there is such a thing as embarrasment then Faye and her mom would live with it for the rest of their lives. If a church or a religious organization is found to be guilty of circulating false information, the church heirarchy can impose discpline on the erring staffers i.e fire them. The adherents themsleves can impose their own moral judgment on the local church i.e., move to another church.
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comment by Yeah on 11/11/04 07:37:17 PM
Kudos to flyingroc!
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comment by anon on 11/11/04 07:42:27 PM
to atty dino
baka you mean persecuted instead of prosecuted?
and i think the boy who cried wolf is a story of one who keeps on saying he saw a wolf and people would believe him; and in the end, when he did really see one, no one believed him anymore. i'm wondering how it is applicable in this case.
oa naman, proof beyond reasonable doubt na degree of proof na na ni re require mo. di naman ito cirminal case.
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comment by Yeah on 11/11/04 08:16:14 PM
Hayaan nyo na i-view ng ibang tao ang discussion according to his/her profession. Abogado si Atty Dino, so i think ok lang if he sees this in "courtroom" terms.
Sina uragon nga, mga science people kaya dun sila nagconcentrate sa merits ng thesis ni Faye.
It is the inherent differences that make any discussion great!
Wag lang pasukan nina truth seeker kasi mga bastos sila.
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comment by anon on 11/11/04 10:17:13 PM
oo naman, maganda talaga na makadagdag ang ibat ibang viewpoints pero my point is atty dino is using the wrong words, the wrong analogy and the wrong degree of proof.
it was just to clarify the errors in what he wrote. nothing more
as a lawyer and an educator, i'm sorry but i cannot let this pass.
PROSECUTE means ....
1. Law.
To initiate civil or criminal court action against.
To seek to obtain or enforce by legal action.
2. To pursue (an undertaking, for example) until completion; follow to the very end.
3. To chase or pursue (a vessel): “He held a dispatch saying that [they] had prosecuted and probably killed an Echo-class missile submarine” (Tom Clancy).
To carry on, engage in, or practice.
while PERSECUTE means
1. To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or beliefs.
2. To annoy persistently; bother.
dont you agree that it is the latter he really meant to use instead of the former.
the boy who cried wolf is an improper analogy. law has nothing to do with it.
the degree of proof he wants is for criminal cases. and this isnt really a criminal case, is it. well at least not yet.
the point is, walang kaso magpakita ng expertise at ng background so long as tama ang pagkagamit.... e mali. hence, my comment.
yung scientist na comment, tamang tama naman sa topic na he chose to discuss. dito tuloy parang nakikita ko na na nililities and nakuryenteng nagmamarunong na teenager na si patricia evangelista at katabi niya ang preteener na si faye. hmm sino kaya ang judge.
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comment by Yeah on 11/11/04 10:20:13 PM
Yeah, right. Now I understand your point, anon. Salamat sa clarification.
Have a nice day!
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comment by Hmmm on 11/11/04 10:34:40 PM
Buti pa sina Yeah at anon, ayos magkontrahan, walang nagmumura at walang gumagamit ng provocative words. Ganun na lang tayo pag disagree sa sinasabi, ha? Para healthy yung discussion.
Mabuti at nawala na si Truth Seeker...
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comment by Liberty on 11/11/04 11:13:22 PM
I want to share views with the "protect" Faye idea. It's a twist to the seemingly electrified negativity of the discussion. But I share with it because she is a minor and she has still bright future. Maybe, if ever her story is untrue or that she agreed to be sensationalized for the sake of publicity, then a professional help is necessary. If it is true then God will richly reward her - from what I've read she doesn't want praises from men, all she wanted is to give back the glory to Him. I go for saving and nurturing our young for the sake of this country.
What I can't seem to digest is the mother's role in this issue. IF THE STORY IS A FALLACY then my ESP tells me she is the one that started it all. WHY? I don't know I also need answers for this. All reasons I can think of are there in the blue but I'm afraid these will just reflect the biases, griefs, frustrations and dreams I've had myself as a Filipino. What I can probably cite as grief for me is the fact that she is studying Nursing.
IF THE STORY IS TRUE then she deserved a Malacanang attention for simply being a mother of a Filipino child. I will be glad to see her in a simple smile.
Oh, I miss my mother!
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comment by fwend on 11/12/04 12:07:57 AM
I was gonna let this pas but can't... resist....
Truth Seeker: Akala ko ba truth seeker ka? Then why are you content to "wait"? "Stop bullshitting each other"? Maybe you should start with yourself.
I just had to get it out of my system, pasensya na kayo kung mababaw.
Back to the Faye story: I just want to know: why concot the Faye story? Yun lang.
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comment by anon on 11/12/04 12:10:25 AM
*concoct
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comment by gustav on 11/12/04 12:56:39 AM
Interesting that we talked about possibility of prosecution here but really , if this Faye story is proven to be a hoax, who has the last word, the credibility to declare that it is indeed bogus so that the nation and its people can have their peace? Jessica Soho? Gloria? Any suggestion?
How should we end this and embarrass these pranksters amd low-lifers for the rest of their lives?
HEADLINE : JESSICA SOHO DECLARES FAYE STORY A HOAX... Is this what we are waiting for? Will Jessica do it?
Other than that I feel that we may have already reached a dead end or stalemate. This story appears to have no steam to progress further.
In the end it looks like the masterminds of this Faye story had it all figured out, that they can stir the stew and splatter it all over the place and people's faces and somehow get away with it. They are so smart that they actually acknowledged the fairy tale in front of the TV cameras and still get away with it!
Who then would be the culprit, the goat then? Answer - Patricia Evangelista and Phillipine Star for being super dumb, first buffoons and dragging us into this brouhaha.
Looks like we might just ALL been HAD!
Yes, we might just ALL been HAD!
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comment by Funny on 11/12/04 02:31:39 AM
Funny but it seems the media forgot this issue already. It seems it stopped when Inquirer featured Faye Page-1. No wonder the noise, or shall I say the pffft, is isolated in this blog.
If anybody from you people can present a true story that the Faye story is not true then hep hep hurray, we can continue in this blog till kingdom come!
But if nobody can do it then hep hep hurray to flyingroc for paving the means to vent our disappointments to some people who ruin our day.
Let's get back to our lives and find back our natural sense of humor (not sense of rumor) for the next days to come. Christmas is just around the corner, you know.
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comment by anon on 11/12/04 02:58:45 AM
The End of Faye Story... Results of the validation made by DOST
Contact Person: Ruby Cristobal
Science Education Institute-DOST
8390241
rrc@sei.dost.gov.ph
MEDIA ADVISORY
12 November 2004
The story of Faye Nicole San Juan, a Grade 6 student of St. James College of Quezon City, has been recently the subject of discussions in the Internet, electronic mails, articles, opinion columns, TV and radio programs. As claimed in these reports, Faye won first place in the Intercontinental Science Quiz Net in Brisbane, Australia besting 56 students all over the world, and the Best Physics award which she received in Sydney, Australia. It was also told that she was among the Top Five winners in Mathematics for the Young Asians held in Indonesia.
We, at the Science Education Institute (SEI) of the Department of Science and Technology (DOST), have been alerted to this issue prompting us to validate the claims of the girl and her mother, Ms. Ma. Catherine San Juan. This is in line with the agency’s mandate to support, nurture and recognize talents in science, mathematics and technology. The validation procedure is a process adopted to verify the awards received by individuals for competitions which are not coordinated by the Institute.
Unfortunately, the information we have gathered from various sources, including our professional counterpart in Australia, do not support the claims of Faye and her mother. We have likewise invited the young girl and Ms. San Juan through the principal of St. James College, Mr. Arnel B. Salgado, to present valid proofs of the girl’s awards. However, Ms. San Juan declined the invitation.
Although SEI-DOST would like to give Faye the recognition befitting an outstanding young achiever in science and mathematics, we are constrained by the fact that her story as presented in the media lacks merit in terms of valid proofs and the absence of any indication that the competitions cited truly exist.
(SGD.) ESTER B. OGENA
Director
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comment by Refuse on 11/12/04 05:58:00 AM
Am staying clear of this MEDIA ADVISORY for the meantime. I searched DOST.GOV.PH and no mention of this yet. How can we be sure?
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comment by Gen.Garcia on 11/12/04 06:28:11 AM
Atty Dino, some people here already lost their sense of humor so just keep quite where you are, hit when you must. Voila, Liberty just did what you are seeking.
Am waiting for Kathy and Hmmmm to write what's on their mind.
Meantime, I'll check this DOST site.
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comment by gustav on 11/12/04 03:03:11 PM
Well, someone did finally put the nail on the coffin on this hoax and I'm glad the govt did it.
In retrospect, the goats in this embarrasing hoax are Patricia Evangelista and the Phil Star for stirring and sensationalizing the FAYE issue with their “misplaced priorities” rhetoric. It is now evident that they are the ones guilty of misplaced priorities, by picking up trash and throwing it to the public. They only got Ka Pedro emotional and excited with it and hopefully Ka Pedro , upon reading the statement from the Dept of Education , had helped himself to a cup of extra strong Starbucks grande along with a box of Kleenex to calm his extra sensitive emotions. It is interesting how the country responded with mixed reactions, from those that were totally unsold, skeptical, optimistic to those that took the story to the bank, cried their heart out, pumped their hands in the air and shouted YES ! Damn govt bastards, you deserve it! FAYE ! FAYE ! FAYE!
The blog operators were excellent in providing coverage to the story – some were neutral and others defended the story and fought alongside Patrica. Now that the truth is out, to most it is a relief, to others frustration and to the blind and lame ducks, disappointment.
Funny you guys are asking- how can we be sure of the media advisory from the DOST? Are we starting another hoax again? LOL.
Someone asked – so why concoct the story? Good question. What was the ultimate motive? Was the Bread of Life compelled to commission Faye San Juan to “act” the role because of the pressure of the Patricia Evangelista article? Any comments?
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comment by gustav on 11/12/04 03:04:57 PM
Well, someone did finally put the nail on the coffin on this hoax and I'm glad the govt did it.
In retrospect, the goats in this embarrasing hoax are Patricia Evangelista and the Phil Star for stirring and sensationalizing the FAYE issue with their “misplaced priorities” rhetoric. It is now evident that they are the ones guilty of misplaced priorities, by picking up trash and throwing it to the public. They only got Ka Pedro emotional and excited with it and hopefully Ka Pedro , upon reading the statement from the Dept of Education , had helped himself to a cup of extra strong Starbucks grande along with a box of Kleenex to calm his extra sensitive emotions. It is interesting how the country responded with mixed reactions, from those that were totally unsold, skeptical, optimistic to those that took the story to the bank, cried their heart out, pumped their hands in the air and shouted YES ! Damn govt bastards, you deserve it! FAYE ! FAYE ! FAYE!
The blog operators were excellent in providing coverage to the story – some were neutral and others defended the story and fought alongside Patrica. Now that the truth is out, to most it is a relief, to others frustration and to the blind and lame ducks, disappointment.
Funny you guys are asking- how can we be sure of the media advisory from the DOST? Are we starting another hoax again? LOL.
Someone asked – so why concoct the story? Good question. What was the ultimate motive? Was the Bread of Life compelled to commission Faye San Juan to “act” the role because of the pressure of the Patricia Evangelista article? Any comments?
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comment by flyingroc on 11/12/04 03:08:36 PM
Perhaps I have a suspicious nature, but I wouldn't trust this missive just yet. The only other site I found with the text is at:
http://stmedia.blogspot.com/
I've sent an email to the person on the letter, to confirm whther this is true or not. After all, we should hold ourselves to the same standards that we hold the media.
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comment by flyingroc on 11/12/04 03:23:31 PM
Oops, J Angelo's site also has this information. I hope this is the end of the story.
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comment by anon on 11/12/04 05:18:37 PM
I suspect that since the mother (and child) got away with the story about Faye winning in Indonesia, she thought of creating one about Faye winning in Australia. Either she was after about whatever she can collect in donations (e.g. for a roundtrip plane ticket that could cost more than PHP100,000) or she just want to make other people proud for her child.
Either way -- she ruined her child's reputation.
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comment by usual suspect on 11/13/04 02:32:50 PM
I enjoyed reading most of the postings here. At least it showed that not everyone will take a story without verifying the details. Common sense prevailed from most of those who posted here.
If majority of Filipino people in the Philippines will follow this lead, to verify first before embracing a story as the whole truthful story, the Filipinos will not be easily hoodwinked by leaders, whether in the government, religious sector or education.
To the the critical thinkers in the Philippines, may your tribe increase.
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comment by anon on 11/13/04 03:05:16 PM
amen
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comment by alvadir on 11/14/04 06:28:03 PM
this thread is beyond cool. this is what we Filipinos should be celebrating - intellectual sparring, open-mindedness, and a passionate advocacy of the truth. ang cool ninyo! salamat sa intellectual stimulation. =)
i do want to mention that this should be a lesson for ate glo - sa susunod na may totoong achiever na nanalo sa isang totoong contest sa ibang bansa, kelangan hayaan ding mag curtain call ang Pilipinong iyon sa Malacanang. what it looks like right now is this: Jasmine Trias, a 3rd-placer in a singing competition in the US, is what the country should be proudest of at the moment. but i honestly think that there are other things out there that better deserve recognition from the highest seat of government.
it *is* true that we have misplaced priorities. even though this particular faye story is not true, there are many other stories of achievement that are largely unnoticed or unrecognized. i have 2 friends who graduated from West Point this year, and they were supposed to go to Malacanang to meet with the president, but she didn't have time for them. one of these guys, alex estomo, even graduated with honors. but ate glo passed. which i think isn't very fair.
anyway, enough rambling. thanks again for your thoughts. this is a great blog. mabuhay kayo!
kung ok lang palang magplug... http://www.xanga.com/alvadir =
) kung bawal, pakiedit na lamang po. salamat!
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comment by deracinee on 11/15/04 10:59:13 PM
i've gone through all the posts, and saw that strong anger is the clearly predominant emotion in them. i feel and think it's a natural reaction, in light of the scope and breadth of attention given to the story and the debunking that followed it.
to those who can't understand the anger, take this from a 44 year old mom...
1) "feeling unloved" doesn't justify putting to shame a whole nation and getting a lot of filipinos into arguments;
2) apologizing for not earlier verifying statements does not undo the harm done, it only serves to appease some who have it in them to extend forgiveness;
3) unleashing a "fire and brimstone mentality" on anyone who disagrees or questions, or seeks the truth, only reveals how shallow one's faith really is;
4) there is a lot of good that came out of this, anyway... at least that's how i personally see it (feel free to argue). i've learned to respect my kids a lot more and pray hard to my God to keep me strong in my efforts to become a good mom. thanks to all.
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comment by deracinee on 11/15/04 11:04:27 PM
i've gone through all the posts, and saw that strong anger is the clearly predominant emotion in them. i feel and think it's a natural reaction, in light of the scope and breadth of attention given to the story and the debunking that followed it.
to those who can't understand the anger, take this from a 44 year old mom...
1) "feeling unloved" doesn't justify putting to shame a whole nation and getting a lot of filipinos into arguments;
2) apologizing for not earlier verifying statements does not undo the harm done, it only serves to appease some who have it in them to extend forgiveness;
3) unleashing a "fire and brimstone mentality" on anyone who disagrees or questions, or seeks the truth, only reveals how shallow one's faith really is;
4) there is a lot of good that came out of this, anyway... at least that's how i personally see it (feel free to argue). i've learned to respect my kids a lot more and pray hard to my God to keep me strong in my efforts to become a good mom. thanks to all.
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comment by jen on 11/17/04 07:16:37 PM
whew! the faye story really had a lot of people's head rolling (including mine and my husband's).
latest news i saw on t.v about faye.
last nite i stayed up so late watcning the news about faye at ABS-CBN. apparently the story is a hoax, but faye and her mom is for real. according to the news the mother did use the story (and her child) to get revenge at her husband who allegedly left her. and finally decided to admit (on a text message) it was false when she realized that the story she made up had gone out of control already.
they also interviewed the principal of the school and he confirmed that they also had been fooled by the story and because of that they are taking back the scholarship that they previously granted faye.
well, faye and her mother is nowhere to be found now (according to the media again. they are hiding somewhere, no one knows.
i feel sorry for faye, i think she is really smart but she also too young to be taught how to lie in public.
our quest in finding the truthfulness of the FAYE STORY has finally come to an end (hmmm i guess and i hope), did we learned something here? i guess so and i hope so.
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comment by hotta_hotta on 11/18/04 12:23:32 AM
eist, ive got an assignment about these.. can u guys please post in your comments, and a summary of the said article, "Misplaced Priorities can mislead the nation"? Pls.. Thanks
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comment by patE'sfan on 11/18/04 12:26:26 AM
>mybe faye's story isn't true, but stll, i thnk that her "story" inspyrd many peolple, young nd old...
>i think all of these happnd 4 a purpose..i think God allowed this to happen 4 us to realize many things..
-the gov really misplaced priorities..
When Jasmine Trias visited the Philippines, everyone was agog waiting to see her..the media and many of our "kababayans" flocked to the airport to see her.Not knowing, or just ignoring the fact, that Jasmine Trias denies that she has a Filipino blood before she join the American Idol.
-When Angelo dela Cruz was rescued, the media and our "very very VERY concerned politicians" came to the airport to see the "hero"..huh??eh dba ngmakaawa p nga cia ng saklolo s gov?he doesn't know sacrifice..he doesn't know death..and he doesn't know 'heroics'..nd now his enjoying the pleasures that being a COWARD offrs hir n the Philippines..
-After the 2004 Athens Olympics the Philippines didn't won any medals..all we had were crutches..but these athletes given their best,almost died for thier nation's pride..fought for threir contry's honor..they aimed high for the Philippines..and they were not welcomed when they arrived in the airport,with the aches nd pains they endured trying to do good for something worth being proud of..not like Jasmine..not like Angelo dela Cruz who had politicians carrying him through the airport even tough he can walk(kala mo cla ngrescue!)
faye's story opened up such things that lacked attention..
maybe she put many things at risk..
but still m on Faye's back..
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comment by neil on 11/18/04 12:26:38 AM
>mybe faye's story isn't true, but stll, i thnk that her "story" inspyrd many peolple, young nd old...
>i think all of these happnd 4 a purpose..i think God allowed this to happen 4 us to realize many things..
-the gov really misplaced priorities..
When Jasmine Trias visited the Philippines, everyone was agog waiting to see her..the media and many of our "kababayans" flocked to the airport to see her.Not knowing, or just ignoring the fact, that Jasmine Trias denies that she has a Filipino blood before she join the American Idol.
-When Angelo dela Cruz was rescued, the media and our "very very VERY concerned politicians" came to the airport to see the "hero"..huh??eh dba ngmakaawa p nga cia ng saklolo s gov?he doesn't know sacrifice..he doesn't know death..and he doesn't know 'heroics'..nd now his enjoying the pleasures that being a COWARD offrs hir n the Philippines..
-After the 2004 Athens Olympics the Philippines didn't won any medals..all we had were crutches..but these athletes given their best,almost died for thier nation's pride..fought for threir contry's honor..they aimed high for the Philippines..and they were not welcomed when they arrived in the airport,with the aches nd pains they endured trying to do good for something worth being proud of..not like Jasmine..not like Angelo dela Cruz who had politicians carrying him through the airport even tough he can walk(kala mo cla ngrescue!)
faye's story opened up such things that lacked attention..
maybe she put many things at risk..
but still m on Faye's back..
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comment by anon on 11/18/04 08:21:15 AM
to the fan of patricia evangelista
i'm sorry but i dont need a hoax to highlight the ills you mentioned (and you just hit the tip of the iceberg, by the way). and i'm of common intelligence.
we just all need to PAY ATTENTION to things and use our COMMON SENSE. tune in to what ails our country. there are many.
please read keyser soze on faye V of this site.
please do not use god's name to author the perfidies of man. it was a misuse of a gift from god, freedom.
faye should be helped not scored, i agree. this is a painful lesson for her on the truth as well as the frailties of man. i hope that she with the help of her counselors will be able to learn from this and move on.
we as a nation should call a spade a spade otherwise we will not be able to move on as we should.
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comment by anon on 11/18/04 06:25:52 PM
faye is a victim here, of life's cruelty and misfortune and i guess all of us would agree that she needs help. we can always pray for her.
the story may not be true but we must admit in one way or another we all learned something from it. some got inspired, some hearts were touched, it even helped us learn how to be investigative, it tested our ability to realized what's real from what is not, right?
anyways,,, i said on one of my comments here,, the quest has ended.
i have just but one question if this story had been true, would it make any difference?
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comment by jen on 11/18/04 09:03:57 PM
faye is the victim here, of life's cruelty and misfortune and i guess all of us would agree that she needs help. we can always pray for her.
the story may not be true but we must admit in one way or another we all learned something from it. some got inspired, some hearts were touched, it even helped us learn how to be investigative, it tested our ability to realized what's real from what is not, right?
anyways,,, as i said on one of my comments here,, the quest has ended.
i have just but one question if this story had been true, would it make any difference?
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comment by anon on 11/19/04 05:02:07 PM
well. for one, perhaps we may not be posting comments in this blog. :)
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comment by anon on 11/21/04 02:40:58 AM
kindly please give me the summary of faye's story
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comment by Keyser Soze on 11/21/04 03:00:20 AM
I was going to post this in Section III but apparently the thread had closed already. Anyway, to Ghie... No, you are not dumb or stupid, you are just plain lazy. I have no patience for people who, coming in late into discussion, do not even go through the courtesy of viewing what has already been said. And, it is all the more annoying when all the summaries and links provided at the beginning of each section are carelessly ignored.
